I do not recommend posting late at night after a long conversation about politics with someone who is as passionate about certain issues as you are coupled with 3 days of very little sleep (trying to learn the art of cake making for Slade's b-day party after he goes to bed). It's the kind of thing you do when you're wasted and your inhibitions are at an all time low and you say whatever is on your mind without thinking it through first. So yes, the things I said were I what I truly meant, just expressed poorly and with little tact (not that people have confused me with having an exhorbitant amount of it to begin with- but then a very tactful stance can also be seen as a very useless one in many a situation where great reform is desperately needed - as it is in this one.) That being said I wanted to revamp my last semi-ridiculously worded post about politics in regards to the also semi-ridiculous comments I received from it (who knew people have that much time to read and comment on the blogs of miscellaneous strangers - I barely have the time to catch up on emails or my own friend's blogs- wow).
I talked about being confused about why there are political parties instead of people backing other people on issues alone- wouldn't that make more sense? Start with the issues that you feel passionately about, in my case abortion, and weed out those who are not on your side. Then you go through the remaining candidates on issues of relative importance until you find a candidate you dislike the least. I did not claim to be an Independent nor that the issues I side with the most are on the side of the Republican Party. I said - why do there have to be parties instead of issues?
I then went on to wonder aloud why anyone would back Obama knowing his stance on killing babies - it is VERY extreme- as in turning your back on a dying baby from a botched abortion instead of attempting to save it's life- kind of extreme. Doesn't that just totally defeat the purpose of why we are here on Earth, rather why we come to Earth? Do you truly think God would provide inspiration to lead the greatest nation on Earth through a man like this? A man who said he wouldn't punish his own daughter with a child for making such a 'mistake' as this? Is that what procreation can be thought of as- a human being as a mistake? Hopefully he'll catch the TV spots that McCain is supporting hosting an adult from a botched abortion who is thankful Obama's law was not in place when she was born. Did I say that there is never a reason for abortion - no, I did not. And the odds of an abortion being performed for someone whose life is in peril or was viciously raped or the like and had a resulting pregnancy are not NEARLY as high as the abortions performed today in many societies for reasons of pure selfishness, greed, and so forth. So don't bring the gray scenarios surrounding abortion to the table- I'm talking about the absolutely heinous ones here- aborting a baby out of convenience - that is TRULY heinous. THAT is what keeps me awake at night. THAT is truly all I can think about when I see Obama preach about change and not truly supporting our country or trying to match stories about war heroes mother's hoping they can make a difference in the war having sketchy and poorly thought out arguments about foregin policy (what the heck does when a visa was obtained have to do with anything of substance when it comes to ruling our free country by an ideal candidate? or someone having a personal email account that they send business emails from? If there were truly and errant substance to those findings don't you think it'd have come to light by now, but where is the punishment for the one who broke into Palin's account in the first place and sent fake emails from it - hmm...no punishment for breaking that law huh?).
The fact that the, thankfully expired, show Sex and the City is so popular in our society when the women actors on the show talk about in their episodes how they've had to have multiple abortions b/c they 'forgot' to use protection or 'accidentally' got pregnant all the while acting like a bunch of skanky dummies sleeping with any and every man who will give them the time of day and contracting nastiness from it - living useless lives that glorify fashion and all of the other absolutely worthless and petty things they can dredge up to look important to take the focus off of what life is supposed to be - about families and improving society in meaningful ways. Is that the kind of thing we should take so lightly, be entertained by, and justify for doing it ourselves?
How dare someone take the life of an innocent little beautiful baby so callously? It is so sickly wrong to its very core- how in the world did this reasoning behiind abortion ever make it to our great society? How is it that we are all not fighting so hard to get rid of it - that is should only exist to serve those women who truly need its services?
That is emphasis I should have put into that last posting ...whatever. Keep voting for baby killers and take the chance that when you go to meet your Maker that you won't have to account for those deaths in some way as well. Pretend that there is any issue greater than killing of innocents or that we'll get anywhere as a 'progressed' society by doing so. One thing follows another.
How is this even in society? How is it that we don't absolutely shrink in disgust when we hear about this happening b/c it just wasn't convenient? There are consequences to every action - aren't we talking basic sex ed here? Too bad more people aren't more passionate about improving society and saving lives.
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Being one of the "semi-ridiculous", I felt the need to respond again.
I appreciate the fact you feel so passionate about the issues you feel are important. What I can't appreciate is the fact that you took down your initial post, along with the comments that were made. Are you that insecure with yourself that you can't bare to have others disagree with you?
From a previous post you made entitled, "Comments Welcome" you said, "comments are very welcome and adored, I always love a good give and take - don't you?" Apparently this is only true when the people who respond agree with you.
As for me having so much time on hands to "comment on the blogs of miscellaneous strangers", it's probably no different than the people who have the time to rant far too long about things they're not willing to completely learn about.
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Marybeth- I deleted my original post b/c I couldn't find a way to 'pause' it in the system while I was editing it- there isn't a function for it and I wanted to take more time to think on what I wrote so I would express what I was getting at a little more clearly this time around. I don't have a lot of time to sit in one place during the day to do so as I have a small child to care for, and today my day was full with getting him ready, changing him, playing with him, feeding him, making 3 meals, lunch out w/ the sister-in-laws, treats for the hubby's home teachees, meeting w/ 3 more landscapers for bids on our yard, talking to the hubby about our bids and his day, taking dinner to a new mom, talking on the phone to two out of state friends about an upcoming trip together, and looking into hobbies of interest (i.e. cooking & finding good parenting books)- thus I did not have sufficient time to readily edit my original post (which admittedly -already- was not done to my liking). There's no rule that says you can't restate something in a better way, my writing and expressing of thoughts is a work in progress since I started my blog, but it is something I enjoy, so if I do rant far too long about something then too bad for you if you decide to read it all- just move on to the next blog if you're dissatisfied, no one's begging/forcing you to stay and read. I enjoy it and I'm learning from it. After taking a peek at your blog, I don't think I'd be one to judge on another's writing abilities anyway. Plus, you didn't really leave a comment per se, more like a crack at what I wrote- nothing specifically worth responding to at any rate. I am interested in the fact that you continued reading my blog after expressing clear disinterest in what I had to say and that I rambled as you pointed out my affinity for comments that I wrote about in an earlier posting. But I admittedly DO enjoy hearing from people who agree with me- who doesn't. But your honestly reminds me that I need to express myself more clearly and learn to let criticisms roll off my back more easily, live and learn right? I can understand why you blog hop after reading your most recent blog- I just chose to do different things with my time I suppose. I use blogging as an outlet for my frustration, a way to keep up with others I know and vice versa, and somewhat of a scrapbook for my child of funny things he does that I'd also like to share. But whatever, to each his own. As for 'completely' learning about something. Can you be more specific? Unless you're reading between the lines here I'm pretty sure I'm spelling out the fact pretty clearly that this post is about being Pro-Life and questioning the abilities of those who aren't and seeking to lead the best country on God's green earth - taking a look at the BIG issues versus the petty crap that people from both sides try to point fingers at. Where are the facts that I'm skewing here? Thanks for the website though, already have it and check it regularly and glean from it what I can amidst the slight 'lefty' bias. If you're going to call me out for inaccuracies (or 'comment'), at least do it specifically so I can correct myself if needed. Hope you enjoyed the rant...again!
Liz, I'm all for expressing your thoughts, but realize that not all your thoughts are my thoughts, and just like it's ok to rant, it's ok for me to disagree.
As a result of reading your post, I've actually done some research on Obama, more so than I would have otherwise because like I said, I'm planning on voting for McCain. Thank you for helping me to become more informed.
I think the thing that offended me the most was how judgemental you came across. Maybe you're not normally like that. There are a lot of things in this world that are black and white, but the gray area is so much larger.
I learned about the gray areas after a police officer asked me if I wanted to press charges against my brother for incest. I learned about the gray areas while serving a mission and seeing that people would do whatever they could to save their family. I learned about the gray areas when the doctors told me that my daughter was going to die and they gave me the choice for her to continue on medication that would only prolong the inevitable or to stop the medication and pray for a speedy death.
Again, I appreciate your passion for this and I can only guess that the things you've experienced in your life have shaped and molded you the way my experiences have shaped and molded me.
As one of Lissa's libreral friends I do have to agree that this is a personal blog expressing her personal opinions. I don't agree with all of them (baby killing aside) but I have found that she will listen to pretty much any kind of drivel you send her way...And then tell you what SHE thinks. Which is what she has done here. Just because you don't feel validated that everyone can still see how little you agree with a random stranger doesn't mean you can't post your feelings on YOUR site and some random stranger can post their feelings on your opinions.
I think Marybeth may have initially been expressing frustration at the fact that Liz took down her comment. I would think that someone who openly asks for comments on her blog posts, as Liz does, would be willing to let those comments stay on her blog. It is actually flattering when a random stranger comments on your blog. Liz, I suggest that if you don't want random strangers commenting on your blog, then you make it private and only accessible to family. Part of the beauty of having a blog in a public forum, as you do, is that anyone has access to it. I don't think you would post so many controversial statements on your blog if you didn't want people to read them and react to them. Am I wrong about this? I respect you for stating your opinions and sticking by them even though I disagree with many of them. But once you start filtering responses and only allowing feedback from people who agree with you, you are censoring in the manner of the Nazi book burners or, more recently, North Korea, China, and several other countries that don't allow free speech. My point, one I wish to make very respectfully, is that you can't have it both ways.
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Dan- thanks for setting Terra and myself straight in regards to Marybeth's comments. You're right, I should have worded my comment tolerances differently b/c it appears that I do have them. I am now asking for relevant comments to be left. I have also 'turned on' the comment moderation options that blogger provides so that I may approve or disapprove comments as i see fit- what a handy option they've provided huh? I'm delving more deeply into their options as of late. Either way, the issues of me deleting my original post have been addressed adequately already- the unfortunate side of deleting comments already made is just what it is, unfortunate- until I figure out a way to 'hold' posts in blogger that's how it's going to have to be, though I hopefully don't see myself needing to do that much more in the future- I'm learning. I didn't have to post Marybeth's new comments to my new post, but I did- so don't go worrying that I'm a book burning Nazi just yet. I am very glad that Marybeth posted a response to my response and appreciate where she's coming from and appreciate the latitude she provided me for why I may have foolishly posted something that was a very unfinished product and was out to offend. It's so easy to blur the lines of reality online- I'm learning censorship and tact quickly here and I think it is a good thing for me in many ways. Live and learn. I'm glad that I and others are not dissuaded from having passionate views (even views that others would adamantly like you to know that they do not agree with) - b/c at least I have them. I see so many people just going on from day to day and not doing a thing to try to make this life better for anyone besides themselves. Though I'm learning to phrase things differently, slowly- I still dont' think there's enough time or energy in the day to censor everything that needs to be said and done.
I also wouldn't go assuming why I post what I post and for who it is intended- that's a little too presumptuos on your part. I'm not posting to be controversial- I can't help it that there are morons out there who think killing babies is a good "choice" to make, I'm posting about issues that are outrageously offensive to me and I dare say to God. I do so in an attempt to get the word out that though abortion might be more popularized these days does not make it right and that it needs to be reserved only for extreme circumstances. One cannot deny what it is doing to our society. Just as communicating online often removes the personal level of contact which is often needed especially when delving into such sensitive issues, so is distancing the reality of murder from the American mind as it is becoming more commonplace and casually discussed in popular venues as being not only an acceptable, but popular thing to do. I am going to post a follow up to this to clear up any apparently errant assumptions towards what I was getting at with this post later tonight when I have more time if for no other reason than to appease my mind.
You are right about not having it both ways, my blog is public for convenience reasons so if that means that strangers will read and comment, that's fine. But I allow myself the courtesy of changing my posts as I see fit - in this case to take out the very poorly worded format and feelings that I originally posted and did not feel right about afterwards. Though my blog is public and I welcome comments, I reserve the right to have my blog be what I want it to be. I have changed some verbiage on my blog to be more in line with what I stated here.
Sorry if this is not worded as well as it could be, my child, that I chose not to kill out of convenience who will grow up to be a honest, God-fearing taxpayer and support all of the selfish creatons out in the world who choose to murder innocent babies, is awake and I must attend to him.
Thanks for taking the time to clear things up for Marybeth though.
Yup, I'm still reading the posts ;)
I wanted to tell you that if you want to write and save things before posting there's an option to "Save Draft" and it just sets it aside for you to look at later. You can get to it by clicking on "Edit Posts". It's a nice little thing I like to use.
Another option is saving your posts in a Word document then once you're ready to post, just copy and paste.
Oh, and this is just for your information, no need to even think about posting this.
Have a great day!
How do you go back and save a draft after it's published though- to work on a come and go basis? can you do that?
I'm actually following your blog now too and have to say I really enjoy reading your writing, it's fun, quick and always has a point- you may be dismayed to hear this, but I think we could've been friends in an alternate universe, we actually have much more in common than you know of. I may seem like a hater from my recent writings, but I'm just way too overzealous with the political goings-on. I have a hard time staying on a neutral level with it and the perceived injustices on my part- but in real life I'm a lover of all things fun, silly, goofy- etc. From going through some rough things in my life I dont' take much very seriously anymore and I normally don't offend easily either (just ask my friends)- much to my husband's dismay. :) Feel free to email me directly if you'd like.
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